In 6th grade, A was my best friend for one year. We met at the 6th grade new-to-middle-school orientation. She was brilliant and made me want to be a scholar—we were 10 and 11, and she was already writing things like a 20-page short story about a woman with cancer. Far ahead of the game, I’d say. She would eventually be the valedictorian at her school, while I managed to graduate in the top 10 (I don’t have much to show for that now, especially if you look at my BYU transcript).
We only spent one year in school together as she moved and went on to attend a Christian private school while I stayed on at Timberview Middle School and Liberty High. But we remained diligent pen pals, writing e-mails and letters to each other through my senior year. We never saw each other or hung out, even though we didn’t live that far from each other, so between 7th and 12th grade, I didn’t see her at all. We finally met up my senior year and didn’t have much to say to each other in person, but we had a lot to say to each other in writing. I’ve since lost touch with her.
This particular online conversation is one that I printed off and put in my journal. Shortly after having this conversation with her, I did decide to read the Book of Mormon and would eventually join the Mormon Church. I did have many Christian friends in high school who were very wary of my interest in and studies of the LDS church, but after reading the Book of Mormon in full, I felt very strongly that it was true and wanted to be baptized after my 14th birthday. I would eventually be baptized at 18.
I feel blessed to be Latter-day Saint. I’m still very active in the Church and believe fully in the truth of the Book of Mormon, and I also consider myself very much to be a Christian. Religion for me is an underlying strength in my life, not so much a matter of outward identity or intellectual understanding; rather, of spiritual manifestations of truth. It fills me with a longing of what is good, right, and what will bring me joy, despite my natural urges to do otherwise.
This conversation revolves mostly around this question: Are Mormons Christians? I would say now that yes, we definitely are. I’m fascinated by this conversation and the differences we had, even with our adolescent understanding of religion.
So here’s to youth and curiosity:
Me: just this year I found out that half my friends are Mormon
A: too bad. You can witness to them! What kind of dance was it?
Me: it was kind of a shock, not in a bad way
A: well, sort of in a bad way….mormons are really lost usually
Me: what do you mean?
A: they have their own Bible! If you don’t believe in our Bible, something’s got to be wrong
[. . .]
Me: they do believe in our Bible. they just have an extra book
A: “an extra book.” Why would you need an extra book? The Bible has everything we could possibly need
[. . .]
A: Do you know ___ from your church?
Me: no
A: do you go to youth group?
Me: I don’t really know anyone at my church.
Me: no
A: Oh, I thought you did. You know what??
A: My parents are really unhappy with my church and want to go to Pulpit Rock
Me: see, the Book of Mormon is a more recent book, like the New Testament, but it takes place in America with the first people here
Me: really? Well, Pulpit Rock is a good place.
A: You didn’t really answer my previous question though: why do they need another book?
Me: why? Well, they discovered it, and I haven’t exactly read it so I can’t say
Me: It’s just got new saints and prophets and stuff, I’m not really sure what it’s all about
A: Mormons still believe many many things Christians don’t…not that I’m putting myself above anyone else, it’s just a fact
Me: The funny thing is I was really comfortable in a pile of Mormons. They’re all so nice and polite and respectful.
Me: Well, what do they believe that we don’t?
Me: I just know that they’re very strict when it comes to rules in the regular Bible.
A: That’s true. But their Jesus isn’t the same as ours
Me: yes it is
Me: as far as I know that is
A: Are you considering becoming a Mormon?
Me: well, I don’t know
Me: there are things I like about what they do but I don’t know like anything about their religion so I can’t say
Me: that’s just a really weird concept,
A: You don’t like the religion but you like the people that call themselves mormons? Is that what you’re saying?
Me: no, I didn’t say I don’t like their religion, I just don’t know a lot about it
Me: the people that call themselves Mormon, so they aren’t actually Mormon?
A: No, I didn’t mean it that way. But think about it. Christians do fantastic things all the time, plus they are without a doubt going to heaven
Me: some of them
A: fact of the matter is, mormons are not Christians, and are not going to heaven
Me: Some people claim to be Christian but have no idea what they’re doing
A: I agree with that. But that’s true of every religion. Someone’s got to tarnish the name when there are so many throughout the world
Me: how can you say that? Isn’t it that a good person who believes in God goes to heaven?
A: No, actually, that’s not a true Christian. Would you like me to explain what a true Christian is?
Me: Mormons do fantastic things too
Me: sure, go ahead
A: It’s very simple, but give me a minute to type it
Me: ok
A: All you have to do is believe Jesus Christ is God’s son, and that He died for your sins. Admit to God that you’re a sinner, and ask His forgiveness for your sins. Then ask the Father to come into your heart and be your Savior, to rule over your life.
A: That’s what a true Christian is. It’s not simply a good person, it’s someone with Christ living in their hearts
Me: how do you know that’s not the same for Mormons? My friend said that Mormon is another branch of Christianity. The people I’ve talked to believe in the same things I do, I don’t even find a difference between Mormon and what I am.
Me: what about us people who are pretty confused about Jesus?
Me: I mean people use God and Christ in the same sentence as the same person, I don’t understand that
A: Mormons do not have God as their personal Savior. He doesn’t live in their hearts and lives. If you’re confused about Jesus I’d be happy to explain whatever question you have to the best of my ability
Me: how do you know that?
Me: I’ll just have to read the entire New testament. In fact, I’d better read the whole Bible…
A: Yeah, you can do that. But you could also talk to someone, such as a youth pastor or something
A: Even my Bible teacher would be more than happy to have some kind of email correspondence if you’d like me to set that up
Me: well, I don’t really know the people at my church. I don’t know who the youth pastor is and that would be pretty weird with my family
Me: Well, I don’t know what I’m finding so confusing, that’s the problem
A: it’s less intimidating than sitting one-on-one with a guy you’ve never met, if you want to email my Bible teacher
A: You find the Trinity confusing, don’t you?
Me: the Trinity? Well, yes
Me: sometimes the whole religion thing confuses me.
A: Nobody can fully grasp the idea of One God but three persons within that God. But I strongly encourage you to research it and find out some truth for yourself
Me: Well, I can try. I think the Bible is the plainest source I can go to
Me: it’s pretty much laid out for me, I just have to read it sometime
A: you’re already on the right path. :o)
Me: well, gee, that’s encouraging.
A: was that sarcastic?
Me: I just want to find out what’s so different with Mormons
Me: half and half
A: I don’t know all that much about Mormons either. I can try to find out for you, if you’d like?
Me: Every Mormon I have ever met is respectful and smart and nice, so what makes them half as bad as people think?
Me: well, I’ve got friends I can talk to I guess
Me: One already can’t explain it to me
A: They are wonderful people, I’ll agree. I’m not saying at all that they’re bad people
Me: okay, so what makes them so different?
Me: nevermind, I guess I can find that out
A: There is only ONE way to heaven, Jesus Christ. That’s what makes them different
A: I’ll find out more for you if I can
Me: But they do believe in Jesus Christ. And what about God?
A: what about God?
Me: yes, what about God?
A: I don’t see what your question is about God
Me: well, what if you’re a firm believer in God. Is that your ticket to heaven?
A: No. That’s part of it, but you also have to actually ask Him into your life, give your life to Him. You know what I mean when I say ask Him into your heart?
Me: I’ve done that.
Me: I know what you mean.
Me: My life has been handed over for quite some time.
A: I’m so glad to hear it. So why would you want to switch religions??
Me: It’s not a switch, and I don’t want to. It’s just what I believe isn’t really one firm religion. I’m not sure.
Me: I guess you’d call it Christian
A: How often do you pray?
Me: And Mormons say they are Christian, sort of
Me: almost 24/7. Lol, I don’t know, a lot
A: Do you enjoy praying?
Me: absolutely. It’s 24-hour guidance without making a 1-800 call
A: I agree. It’s so great to unload all your problems to a non-judgemental “Friend”
Me: uh huh. So what are you getting at?
A: Do you ever read the Bible?
Me: um, not as often as I should. I barely ever do
A: I’m just saying to grow as a Christian, to really enjoy your faith and not waver around, you need to pray all the time and spend time reading His word and listening. That’s going to get you firm roots in Christianity
A: As well as surrounding yourself with Christian friends
Me: so I can’t have Mormon friends?
Me: I don’t think that’s possible.
A: I’m not saying that at all! Please do have friends of every religion!
A: It gives you a tremendous opportunity to witness to them, to give them the light of Jesus in their lives!
Me: There aren’t as many Christian people at Liberty, not as many as you’d think there would be
A: wouldn’t your life be dark and completely meaningless without God?
Me: what if they already have that light
Me: yeah
A: wouldn’t you want a solid Christian person to befriend you?
Me: well, I don’t think I’ll ever find that perfect solid person. You’re about as close as it gets
A: No other religion has that personal Savior, the personal contact and friend. And I guess I’ll take that last comment as a compliment.
A: :o)
Me: I think they do have that same personal contact.
Me: yes, that was a compliment I suppose
A: No, they don’t. They don’t have the guarantee of eternal life.
Me: They had a closing prayer at the dance, and they said exactly what I would have, so it sure sems like they have the same contact.
Me: that’s what I don’t understand.
A: it may appear that way. But in reality, they haven’t asked God to be their personal God and Savior.
Me: I don’t know about that.
A: anyone can pray, but other religions are not true Christians
Me: why would anyone bother praying if they weren’t praying to someone? I think a lot of religions have the same idea
A: The same idea, yes, but not the reassurance of promised eternal life. A lot of religions do believe in God, but they’re not saved, or born again.
Me: if they believe in God, and they’ve given their lives to him, aren’t they saved?
A: If they’ve asked to be forgiven for their sins and He has entered their hearts, yes. But you can’t tell if someone has actually done that. It’s between them and God.
Me: so can’t a Mormon or whatever do that?
Me: and what about Jews? Wait, I’m not about to get into another religion.
A: I’m sure they could become real Christians, but if they were they’d realize they only need the Bible, and they’d also realize their other beliefs aren’t true.
Me: Well, do you believe your history books?
A: Jews get more complicated. What do you mean by that?
Me: and what people tell you about the past? How do you know it’s not just another book like any other book you’ve read
Me: well, I started off with Mormons, and this is a very long intricate conversation. It would get even more confusing if I threw in another subject.
Me: You know what, I don’t know what the Book of Mormon says, so I don’t know
A: no kidding. I’m not an expert on the Mormon religion, but I’ll find out for you
M: I can find out, but thanks. This is sort of my own confusing problem
[. . . we go on talking about my mother leaving/doing missionary work for a while]
Me: my dad just walked in, he’s hounding me to do chores all day. Sigh…
A: Sorry to end the conversation. I’ve enjoyed it. Hope we can do it again sometime.
M: Well, yes, same to you
A: Talk to you later, then?
Me: yeah, I’ll see ya later!
A: Bye, Liz! :o)








